... until somebody else fucking says something!
Overall episode high point?
The Penny-Desmond reunion!! Amazing! So beautiful! So Odysseus! That arc has been really well-structured; even though i have always felt like Desmond was such an inexcusable jackass/coward for breaking it off with Penny, and that as a result he didn't deserve her, i think the story of his redemption was really excellent.
(and did anybody else feel like Claire's mom looked a lot like Penny?)
5.30.2008
Way to go, Sawyer
Also? I LOVED the helicopter scene. I loved that moment where probably for the first time in his life Sawyer really made an unselfish choice where he basically fucked himself up to save people he cared about.
Also? I thought the whole Jin/Sun thing was brilliant. Really well done. When Sun told Michael "I'm pregnant," just before he went down below deck, i was like "why the fuck would she tell him that?" and then when Michael said to Jin "you need to go now. You're going to be a father" i was like "Oh THAT'S why!!" And Sun's acting in the helicopter-taking-off/explosion scene was phenomenal.
Also? I thought the whole Jin/Sun thing was brilliant. Really well done. When Sun told Michael "I'm pregnant," just before he went down below deck, i was like "why the fuck would she tell him that?" and then when Michael said to Jin "you need to go now. You're going to be a father" i was like "Oh THAT'S why!!" And Sun's acting in the helicopter-taking-off/explosion scene was phenomenal.
Let's Try to Have a Real Conversation Here, People
Ok, in the name of getting this party started, can I just say that it is a testament to the talent of the writers on this show that i felt a little pang in my heart when Ben said:
"Because the person who moves this island can never come back here."
?
like, for real? the most evil/infuriating man on television? being robbed of the thing he loves most in the universe? but doing it willingly because that's what it needs?
[blinks back eye moisture]
"Because the person who moves this island can never come back here."
?
like, for real? the most evil/infuriating man on television? being robbed of the thing he loves most in the universe? but doing it willingly because that's what it needs?
[blinks back eye moisture]
5.26.2008
Season Four... the Shinning
Greetings from Hawai'i! Lydia and I are officially on THE island and it's awesome out here. It wouldn't surprise me if much of the events of LOST were actually inspired by traveling around Oahu and the other Hawaiian islands. As you might expect, there are some amazing and also mysterious sights around, including lots of relics from military activity here on the islands, especially Oahu (perhaps surprisingly, the Pearl Harbor memorial was less interesting than some of the actual abandoned military "stations" on Oahu).
We're really looking forward to watching the 2-hr season finale here. Perhaps we'll even try finding a local bar where it's playing.
But enough of that -- let's talk about Season Four! A few quick thoughts:
(1) One lament I have regarding this season is that it's the first that really opens the door to the supernatural. It was always suggested (e.g., the smoke monster, Locke walking), but I always thought that maybe there were going to be scientific explanations for everything (e.g., electro-magnetism, nanotechnology, etc.). But perhaps starting in earnest in the third season and now in full bloom in the fourth, there appears to be a concession at this point that some things can only be explained by the supernatural. I think I first started dreading this when I saw Miles in the first episode communicating with ghosts -- it really did feel like the beginning of the end. I find supernaturality conceptually very interesting, but the problem with it in a show like this is that it feels like a cheat. In other words, all these crazy things happen and you're wracking your brain to try and figure it out, but in a world with the supernatural, there really can't be any figuring anything out because if the supernatural exists then ANYthing is possible, so it takes logic off the table (this, incidentally, is also one of my many many issues with religion generally). So... I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I definitely found myself frowning a little at some of these supernatural events. For me, this translates into making the writers' jobs much easier and pulls the viewers' job right out from underneath them. It's not that I don't think the show can pull off this trick without being cheap about it, it's just that I kinah wish it wasn't necessary.
(2) I found the theory Sam posted really interesting! It sounds a lot like the movie "Primer," which was a lot of fun. That movie came out in 2004, so it wouldn't shock me if it inspired ideas for the show. I would agree that there appears to be a time-shifting element to Lost, but I'm not sure how it's going to play out. The writers actually said a season or two ago that there was no time traveling going on, but maybe that was just to continue the mystery? The question is, does the Orchid allow for time travel or tele-portation (the orientation video can be interpreted to support either one)? Put another way, when Locke says they have to "move the Island," does he mean move it in time or move it geographically? It may be that the Orchid does both. We saw (I think) Ben tele-port to the desert (wearing an Orchid jacket), and we know a polar bear ends up in the desert, so maybe the Orchid allows for tele-portation to select areas of the world. But does it allow for time-shifting as well? We do need some way to explain Richard Alpert... Any thoughts before we see it unravel in a few days?
(3) Anyone else catch that in the last episode the Oceanic rep. said the O6 were missing for 108 days before they found rescue on that new island? They've been on the island for approximately 100 days now, so either they get rescued VERY soon or there is some time-shifting going on. Perhaps they really will get rescued at the end of this season or early next season and the flash-forwards will become the "present"? I really love how the show plays with time and uses it as a way to develop characters, so I'm looking forward to them doing something really interesting after the O6 get off the island!
We're really looking forward to watching the 2-hr season finale here. Perhaps we'll even try finding a local bar where it's playing.
But enough of that -- let's talk about Season Four! A few quick thoughts:
(1) One lament I have regarding this season is that it's the first that really opens the door to the supernatural. It was always suggested (e.g., the smoke monster, Locke walking), but I always thought that maybe there were going to be scientific explanations for everything (e.g., electro-magnetism, nanotechnology, etc.). But perhaps starting in earnest in the third season and now in full bloom in the fourth, there appears to be a concession at this point that some things can only be explained by the supernatural. I think I first started dreading this when I saw Miles in the first episode communicating with ghosts -- it really did feel like the beginning of the end. I find supernaturality conceptually very interesting, but the problem with it in a show like this is that it feels like a cheat. In other words, all these crazy things happen and you're wracking your brain to try and figure it out, but in a world with the supernatural, there really can't be any figuring anything out because if the supernatural exists then ANYthing is possible, so it takes logic off the table (this, incidentally, is also one of my many many issues with religion generally). So... I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I definitely found myself frowning a little at some of these supernatural events. For me, this translates into making the writers' jobs much easier and pulls the viewers' job right out from underneath them. It's not that I don't think the show can pull off this trick without being cheap about it, it's just that I kinah wish it wasn't necessary.
(2) I found the theory Sam posted really interesting! It sounds a lot like the movie "Primer," which was a lot of fun. That movie came out in 2004, so it wouldn't shock me if it inspired ideas for the show. I would agree that there appears to be a time-shifting element to Lost, but I'm not sure how it's going to play out. The writers actually said a season or two ago that there was no time traveling going on, but maybe that was just to continue the mystery? The question is, does the Orchid allow for time travel or tele-portation (the orientation video can be interpreted to support either one)? Put another way, when Locke says they have to "move the Island," does he mean move it in time or move it geographically? It may be that the Orchid does both. We saw (I think) Ben tele-port to the desert (wearing an Orchid jacket), and we know a polar bear ends up in the desert, so maybe the Orchid allows for tele-portation to select areas of the world. But does it allow for time-shifting as well? We do need some way to explain Richard Alpert... Any thoughts before we see it unravel in a few days?
(3) Anyone else catch that in the last episode the Oceanic rep. said the O6 were missing for 108 days before they found rescue on that new island? They've been on the island for approximately 100 days now, so either they get rescued VERY soon or there is some time-shifting going on. Perhaps they really will get rescued at the end of this season or early next season and the flash-forwards will become the "present"? I really love how the show plays with time and uses it as a way to develop characters, so I'm looking forward to them doing something really interesting after the O6 get off the island!
5.16.2008
Most Comprehensive LOST Theory EVER!
Okay, I havent read this yet, but it seemed like something some of us would totally tear into... including Walead, who might have written it.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/15025
xo
S
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/15025
xo
S
5.13.2008
4.20.2008
can we please take a moment...
and before the new episodes start airing this week,
share with the group your favorite Rousseau moments/thoughts
in the memory of this bewildering crazy french lady...
My favorite was being frightened and excited that this tough Ripley-like woman had survived on her own... making all sorts of Lord of the Flies -like booby-traps!
News Flash: LOST finale on my Birthday, 1 extra ep
Lost finale lengthened, split
By Tim Surette - TV.com
April 14, 2008 at 10:46:00 AM
Two-hour, two-week finale becomes three-hour, three-week event with break in middle; Grey's cap also stretched an extra hour.
Lost must be feeling a little bit like its time-jumping Scotsman Desmond right now. It's on one week, off for another few weeks, is getting rebroadcast with "enhanced" versions at other times--a bit confusing in the space-time continuum of television scheduling.
And things just got a bit more complicated--probably for the best for Lost fans. As rumored last week, ABC has approved an extra hour of Lost this season, extending the series to a total of 14 hours for season four, according to E! Online. The program was slated to have 16 hours of run time this season, but complications from the writers' strike lopped off a few episodes from the schedule.
For Lost fans, more Lost trumps any other small inconveniences, so an extra hour of the sci-fi drama this season overshadows what ABC had to do to squeeze the additional 60 minutes.
The final two episodes are being branded as a Lost three-hour finale, with one hour on May 15 and two hours on May 29. Why no Lost on May 22? Apparently Lost masterminds Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse were able to convince the network that the final two hours of this season had to be shown together.
In making the arrangement, Lost--which begins airing at 10 p.m. when it returns April 24--then bumped its final episode a week, presumably to move up to the more viewer-friendly 9 p.m.-11 p.m. slot.
This, in turn, opened up the May 22 10 p.m.-11 p.m. time period, which ABC has decided to use to add another hour to the finale of Grey's Anatomy. A two-hour Grey's Anatomy season finale will now air that night after the one-hour Ugly Betty season finale.
An extra hour of Lost at the cost of another (short) break between episodes--is it worth it? More Grey's Anatomy! Comment below!
By Tim Surette - TV.com
April 14, 2008 at 10:46:00 AM
Two-hour, two-week finale becomes three-hour, three-week event with break in middle; Grey's cap also stretched an extra hour.
Lost must be feeling a little bit like its time-jumping Scotsman Desmond right now. It's on one week, off for another few weeks, is getting rebroadcast with "enhanced" versions at other times--a bit confusing in the space-time continuum of television scheduling.
And things just got a bit more complicated--probably for the best for Lost fans. As rumored last week, ABC has approved an extra hour of Lost this season, extending the series to a total of 14 hours for season four, according to E! Online. The program was slated to have 16 hours of run time this season, but complications from the writers' strike lopped off a few episodes from the schedule.
For Lost fans, more Lost trumps any other small inconveniences, so an extra hour of the sci-fi drama this season overshadows what ABC had to do to squeeze the additional 60 minutes.
The final two episodes are being branded as a Lost three-hour finale, with one hour on May 15 and two hours on May 29. Why no Lost on May 22? Apparently Lost masterminds Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse were able to convince the network that the final two hours of this season had to be shown together.
In making the arrangement, Lost--which begins airing at 10 p.m. when it returns April 24--then bumped its final episode a week, presumably to move up to the more viewer-friendly 9 p.m.-11 p.m. slot.
This, in turn, opened up the May 22 10 p.m.-11 p.m. time period, which ABC has decided to use to add another hour to the finale of Grey's Anatomy. A two-hour Grey's Anatomy season finale will now air that night after the one-hour Ugly Betty season finale.
An extra hour of Lost at the cost of another (short) break between episodes--is it worth it? More Grey's Anatomy! Comment below!
3.18.2008
Die Alone
So, unless I heard wrong, I believe the teaser for this week's episode said that someone's gonna die. Any thoughts as to who that might be?
We know it can't be any of the O6.
It would be kinah cheap if it was a non-Ben, non-Juliet Other. And we know it ain't Ben. Maybe Juliet? Maybe Richard Alpert?
It would be kinah cheap if it was a Boatie, but I could see maybe Miles because Ben's free now?
I doubt it'll be Michael, mostly because I think he's the guy in the coffin.
For the same reason, I don't think it'll be Walt (the clipping said the deceased was survived by a son).
I don't think they'd kill Jin so soon after his episode -- although, his story arc seems to have reached full circle, meaning it might be his time to go.
Claire might be the one, but it seems a little too early to have Kate adopt Aaron.
It would be too random if it was Rose or Bernard -- although, Rose IS black...
Sawyer is too popular.
Locke is too popular/important.
I doubt it'll be Desmond because the whole Widmore connection seems too important.
So who's left? Hey, what happened to Rosseau and Alex? We haven't heard peep one from them since the first episode of this season. Keep an eye out...
Juliet is also a good option. I just don't know if there's more from her story that we still need to hear, or if she really is "done." Juancy, I think you think there's more coming from her? Mmkay, but she's still a suspect.
I dunno. I guess I'm leaning toward either Miles, Juliet, or perhaps Claire.
If they bring back Mikhail just to die again, I'm gonna flip.
We know it can't be any of the O6.
It would be kinah cheap if it was a non-Ben, non-Juliet Other. And we know it ain't Ben. Maybe Juliet? Maybe Richard Alpert?
It would be kinah cheap if it was a Boatie, but I could see maybe Miles because Ben's free now?
I doubt it'll be Michael, mostly because I think he's the guy in the coffin.
For the same reason, I don't think it'll be Walt (the clipping said the deceased was survived by a son).
I don't think they'd kill Jin so soon after his episode -- although, his story arc seems to have reached full circle, meaning it might be his time to go.
Claire might be the one, but it seems a little too early to have Kate adopt Aaron.
It would be too random if it was Rose or Bernard -- although, Rose IS black...
Sawyer is too popular.
Locke is too popular/important.
I doubt it'll be Desmond because the whole Widmore connection seems too important.
So who's left? Hey, what happened to Rosseau and Alex? We haven't heard peep one from them since the first episode of this season. Keep an eye out...
Juliet is also a good option. I just don't know if there's more from her story that we still need to hear, or if she really is "done." Juancy, I think you think there's more coming from her? Mmkay, but she's still a suspect.
I dunno. I guess I'm leaning toward either Miles, Juliet, or perhaps Claire.
If they bring back Mikhail just to die again, I'm gonna flip.
3.14.2008
LOVED it
Oh my god. Great episode! I haven't cried that much at a television show since Jaslene won America's Next Top Model, two seasons ago. Amazing.
I was gonna write a big long thing, but i am afraid Tina will delete it "by accident" like she did to my FAKE SPOILER ALERT last week.
[shakes fist at sky]
all i'll say now is: do we think it means anything that none of the other Oceanic Six showed up, besides Hurley? I mean, i know she lives in Korea, and all, but they got their fracking golden tickets. and they're rich. i mean, they can jaunt around the globe like that. if they want to. so are they mad at Sun? (didnt Hurley look cute in his lil suit?!?)
and did everybody catch the date on Jin's tombstone? 9/22/04
I was gonna write a big long thing, but i am afraid Tina will delete it "by accident" like she did to my FAKE SPOILER ALERT last week.
[shakes fist at sky]
all i'll say now is: do we think it means anything that none of the other Oceanic Six showed up, besides Hurley? I mean, i know she lives in Korea, and all, but they got their fracking golden tickets. and they're rich. i mean, they can jaunt around the globe like that. if they want to. so are they mad at Sun? (didnt Hurley look cute in his lil suit?!?)
and did everybody catch the date on Jin's tombstone? 9/22/04
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