Does anybody have any thoughts on why last week's episode was called Eggtown?
Here are mine:
* first shot is of eggs frying.
* Locke is evolving into a dictator, and it puts me in mind of the famous soviet saying "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs." Like, we're gonna see some increasingly ill shit come out of Locke.
* Again, a new community has been constructed - eggtown, presumably - and the question that faces our main characters is: can you live as part of a community? can you give up your own selfishness and your own drama, and be a team player? Kate can't.
2.29.2008
Unstuck in Time
What'd you guys think? I don't know how I feel about these Desmond-time-traveling episodes. What're we supposed to make of them? Following the theory from Slaughterhouse-Five, it looks like the show is suggesting that time exists on a contiuum and everything has already happened and it's just a matter of where you are on the timeline. And some people -- like Desmond -- are "unstuck in time," so they can jump around from different time periods in their own lives. It's interesting to think about this idea of time as it relates to memories and consciousness. Even the structure of the show with its flash-backs and flash-forwards seem to endorse this idea of jumping around in time. Flash-backs make sense to us because we assume they're events in one of the character's memories, but how do we understanding flash-forwards? We don't think of them as being "memories" because they haven't happened yet. But if we view them under the Slaughterhouse-Five theory, then we would argue that everything has already happened, most people just aren't conscious of the future. So the show isn't cheating by showing flash-forwards because the camera is unstuck in time, so to speak.
Another big question is whether time is different on and off the island. Is it just perceived to be different, or is it actually different? On the boat, it was Dec. 24, but on the island it was Dec. 27. But maybe it's not that time moves at different paces on and off the island (Penny says that Desmond has been gone for three years, which is about how long he's been on the island), but rather that the worm hole or whatever it is going to and off the island shifts time for those people traveling through it. It looks like the worm hole slows down time for a while for people going through it. And the quicker you go through it the less the time lapse is. So that the missle -- traveling quickly -- was only slowed by 30 minutes, but the helicopter, traveling slower, was slowed by a day or two. Hell, if Michael and Walt are traveling on their boat through this worm hole, they might still be waiting to pop out!
Thoughts?
Another big question is whether time is different on and off the island. Is it just perceived to be different, or is it actually different? On the boat, it was Dec. 24, but on the island it was Dec. 27. But maybe it's not that time moves at different paces on and off the island (Penny says that Desmond has been gone for three years, which is about how long he's been on the island), but rather that the worm hole or whatever it is going to and off the island shifts time for those people traveling through it. It looks like the worm hole slows down time for a while for people going through it. And the quicker you go through it the less the time lapse is. So that the missle -- traveling quickly -- was only slowed by 30 minutes, but the helicopter, traveling slower, was slowed by a day or two. Hell, if Michael and Walt are traveling on their boat through this worm hole, they might still be waiting to pop out!
Thoughts?
2.22.2008
holy fucking shit
People! I am very disappointed with you. That was an AMAZING episode, and it's 11:18 AM and NO ONE has had ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT? [amended at 11:43: Tina just posted something. thanks tina]
Oh my god. oh my god oh my god oh my god. I thought it was brilliant. I loved the tension of learning that Future Kate has a son... and then wondering if it's Sawyer's, if she was impregnated on the island, if she gives birth on the island, and then that revelation in the last shot was just too much!!! What the hell?!? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS TO CLAIRE??! AND WHY CAN'T JACK DEAL WITH SEEING AARON?
(Props to Juancy - he totally called it... as soon as Kate walks in the door to her house, Juancy said "it's Aaron." And so it was).
But seriously people. What gives? Are we not feeling this blog so much anymore?
Oh my god. oh my god oh my god oh my god. I thought it was brilliant. I loved the tension of learning that Future Kate has a son... and then wondering if it's Sawyer's, if she was impregnated on the island, if she gives birth on the island, and then that revelation in the last shot was just too much!!! What the hell?!? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS TO CLAIRE??! AND WHY CAN'T JACK DEAL WITH SEEING AARON?
(Props to Juancy - he totally called it... as soon as Kate walks in the door to her house, Juancy said "it's Aaron." And so it was).
But seriously people. What gives? Are we not feeling this blog so much anymore?
Aaron is the fith!
... but what does this mean about Claire! =( + i thought they were going to have Aaron as one of the Oceanic Six, but never thought that it would be without his mum. + Kate really took a complete turn from avoiding even touching the baby, to potentially sacrificing her freedom to keep him out of the public eye @ the trial. + Note also that even Kate's mother believes Aaron to be her grandson, bringing up questions of Lost-Time (aka MITTELOS), since Jack last mentioned they'd been there about 100 days, the delayed payload experiment/helicopter ride, and the fact that Kate was not 6mo pregnant when captured in Sydney. + What may have happened to Claire and thus most likely some other Castaways, Jack made the wrong decision if he can't face the child. Whatever occurred, we know it spirals him down to attempt suicide later on in the future. + Damn i love this crazy show!
2.15.2008
That's What I'm Talking About
You see? You see the difference between this episode and last week's? How much more emotionally satisfying and engaging it was? I really like Sayid, and it was nice to spend some quality time with him. In the future.
The Sawyer Kate scene was amazing. To see him crack open a teeny tiny bit, basically saying "please stay here with me," was very moving.
But what the fuck is up with Ben? So... we know he survives, gets off the island, etc... but we also know that he had quite an extensive off-island life all along (hence all that coin, and foreign passports... Lostpedia tells me that the name on the Swiss passport was "Moriarty," and Moriarty was the name of Sherlock Holmes' nemesis... widely regarded as literature's first "super villain").
Juancy wondered whether Jacob's cabin didn't appear because there were so many people (and it can only be revealed to specific individuals). Any thoughts on that, or alt theories?
The Sawyer Kate scene was amazing. To see him crack open a teeny tiny bit, basically saying "please stay here with me," was very moving.
But what the fuck is up with Ben? So... we know he survives, gets off the island, etc... but we also know that he had quite an extensive off-island life all along (hence all that coin, and foreign passports... Lostpedia tells me that the name on the Swiss passport was "Moriarty," and Moriarty was the name of Sherlock Holmes' nemesis... widely regarded as literature's first "super villain").
Juancy wondered whether Jacob's cabin didn't appear because there were so many people (and it can only be revealed to specific individuals). Any thoughts on that, or alt theories?
2.14.2008
is it a crime?
is it really sad that I just saw an ad for Chocolate Cherry Dr. Pepper and got SO SO SO SO SO excited? (and by "excited"... i mean "excited"). Like, i'm suddenly SO optimistic about the future!
Whee, new LOST episode tonight!
S
Whee, new LOST episode tonight!
S
2.13.2008
More on My "Meh"
After talking it over with Sarah, who disagreed with my negative assessment of last week's episode, i feel like what really left me cold about the episode was the fact that there was no development of the plots of ANY of the characters we care about. I felt like they could have introduced all these new folks through the eyes of one of the Losties or Others, or even an off-island connection (Libby, Penny, etc), or at the very least interspersed their stories with some more backstory or interpersonal on-island stuff. I mean for Christ's sake, ONE WINK between Jack and Kate? That's all we get? fuck.
More Lost
Word on Lostpedia is that now that the writers' strike is over, the Lost writers are going to write 5 more episodes for this season and will shift the 3 episodes they didn't do for this season to seasons 5 and 6, so that the full 48 episodes will be made.
It looks like there will also be about a month break between season 4 episodes 8 and 9-13.
It looks like there will also be about a month break between season 4 episodes 8 and 9-13.
2.08.2008
Confirmed Dead?
Hmm... Anyone have any thoughts on this episode? I really enjoyed, personally. It seems like the show is willing to give away secrets a little faster this season than in previous seasons (compare, for instance, season 3, where very little was given away till much later on). I also really liked the pacing and the cross-cutting between the two camps and the 4 Boaties. Some random thoughts:
1. I think they sort of explained why no one can see the island. Because of the extreme electromagnetism on the island, the island literally bends light in such a way that if you're standing off the island, you can't see the island because light off the island doesn't bounce back to you. The physicst made a big point about how weird the light was on the island -- I think that's because the electromagnetism is so strong that it pulls on light in funny ways. And when the Swan blew up, it had a momentary weird effect on the electromagnetism, making the island visible for a second.
2. I really like the Boaties! Unlike, again, in Season 3, where so little was initially given to us about the new characters we were meeting, I loved the flashbacks for the 5 Boaties (including Naomi), and I was especially intrigued by Charlotte and her flashback (if Dharma was concerned with global warming, perhaps they were testing whether polar bears could stand warmer climates?).
3. Sam may have mentioned this before, but I think Hurley does seem to have greater powers than we previously thought. He saw the cabin, he saw Jacob, he saw Dave, he saw Charlie, and he even has a bird that screams his name.
4. That Miles guy looks crazy! I'd be worried about his ass.
5. Why are they trying to find Ben? If the Boaties are the Dharma-backers, then they must have gotten wind that Ben defected and orchestrated the Purge, so they're seeking revenge. Also, remember how weirded out they were when they found out Juliet was a "native"? If they are from Dharma, then they probably still think of the natives as Hostiles.
6. I love that Locke's big question was "what's the black smoke?" I believe Ben when he said he didn't know.
1. I think they sort of explained why no one can see the island. Because of the extreme electromagnetism on the island, the island literally bends light in such a way that if you're standing off the island, you can't see the island because light off the island doesn't bounce back to you. The physicst made a big point about how weird the light was on the island -- I think that's because the electromagnetism is so strong that it pulls on light in funny ways. And when the Swan blew up, it had a momentary weird effect on the electromagnetism, making the island visible for a second.
2. I really like the Boaties! Unlike, again, in Season 3, where so little was initially given to us about the new characters we were meeting, I loved the flashbacks for the 5 Boaties (including Naomi), and I was especially intrigued by Charlotte and her flashback (if Dharma was concerned with global warming, perhaps they were testing whether polar bears could stand warmer climates?).
3. Sam may have mentioned this before, but I think Hurley does seem to have greater powers than we previously thought. He saw the cabin, he saw Jacob, he saw Dave, he saw Charlie, and he even has a bird that screams his name.
4. That Miles guy looks crazy! I'd be worried about his ass.
5. Why are they trying to find Ben? If the Boaties are the Dharma-backers, then they must have gotten wind that Ben defected and orchestrated the Purge, so they're seeking revenge. Also, remember how weirded out they were when they found out Juliet was a "native"? If they are from Dharma, then they probably still think of the natives as Hostiles.
6. I love that Locke's big question was "what's the black smoke?" I believe Ben when he said he didn't know.
2.07.2008
2.06.2008
coffin debate poll... just to be morbid
here's info from Lostpedia again, get to the poll (just on the right of this page)!
The Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin is seen in "Through the Looking Glass" in Jack's flash-forward. The identity of the deceased individual inside the coffin has yet to be revealed.
Jack learned of the person's death through a obituary. According to the obituary he is named Jo[.. ..]antham. He died in "The Tower" (Apartments?) on Grand Avenue in downtown Los Angeles.
When Jack visits the Hoffs/Drawlar Funeral Parlor, the casket is closed. The funeral director informs him that he is the only one to come to the viewing. He then asks Jack if he is friend or family of the deceased; Jack replies that he is "neither" (or possibly "either"). When asked if he wants the casket opened, Jack says no and the director leaves. Jack lays a hand on the casket, appearing deeply saddened.
Producer's comment
On December 7, 2007, executive producer Carlton Cuse confirmed that the person in the coffin is a character that the audience has seen before. [1]
The Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin is seen in "Through the Looking Glass" in Jack's flash-forward. The identity of the deceased individual inside the coffin has yet to be revealed.Jack learned of the person's death through a obituary. According to the obituary he is named Jo[.. ..]antham. He died in "The Tower" (Apartments?) on Grand Avenue in downtown Los Angeles.
When Jack visits the Hoffs/Drawlar Funeral Parlor, the casket is closed. The funeral director informs him that he is the only one to come to the viewing. He then asks Jack if he is friend or family of the deceased; Jack replies that he is "neither" (or possibly "either"). When asked if he wants the casket opened, Jack says no and the director leaves. Jack lays a hand on the casket, appearing deeply saddened.
Producer's comment
On December 7, 2007, executive producer Carlton Cuse confirmed that the person in the coffin is a character that the audience has seen before. [1]
Oceanic Flight 815
Here are some youtube videos referencing Oceanic... click the link.
This is the Golden pass commercial aired during that stupid show, which contai
ns a hack by some bearded guy named Sam ...
ns a hack by some bearded guy named Sam ...--Sam Thomas: We can't trust these people.
--Woman 3: ...so be sure to enter.
--Sam Thomas: Oceanic Flight 815.
--Woman 3: It's super-easy, the rules are simple.
--Sam Thomas: We found it.
--Woman 3: ...so be sure to enter.
--Sam Thomas: Oceanic Flight 815.
--Woman 3: It's super-easy, the rules are simple.
--Sam Thomas: We found it.
not the haitian...
There is also this bit of info I found about the two new names (linked to Lostpedia) introduced in this episode, both of which connect to the theories the producers/writers perpetuate througout the net:
1. The oh-so-dearly referenced Haitian is named Matthew Abaddon could be interpreted to be the gate keeper, aka. Cerberus (aka smokey):
In Hebrew Abaddon means "destroyer," or "destruction". More precisely, this name comes from the Hebrew root word aleph-bet-daled, which means "lost".
In Job 26:6; Proverbs 15:11 Abaddon means "place of destruction", or "realm of the dead". In Revelation 9:11, it is personified as Abaddon, "Angel of the Abyss". Many biblical scholars believe Abaddon to be Satan or the antichrist. Others argue that is a mistaken view since the angel "Abaddon" possesses the keys to the Abyss into which Satan is hurled or imprisoned, indicating that he serves as Satan's "jailer" and must therefore be someone else.
2. Our newest arrival on the island, George Minkowski, connects to the idea of time travel or lost time:
George Minkowski is the name of the man on the other end of the satellite phone when Jack calls at the end of "Through the Looking Glass". He is also heard in "The Beginning of the End".
"Minkowski" is the name of a German mathematician. The space which is named after him is a hyper-dimensional manifold in which Einstein's equations for special relativity are perfectly solvable.
1. The oh-so-dearly referenced Haitian is named Matthew Abaddon could be interpreted to be the gate keeper, aka. Cerberus (aka smokey):
In Hebrew Abaddon means "destroyer," or "destruction". More precisely, this name comes from the Hebrew root word aleph-bet-daled, which means "lost".In Job 26:6; Proverbs 15:11 Abaddon means "place of destruction", or "realm of the dead". In Revelation 9:11, it is personified as Abaddon, "Angel of the Abyss". Many biblical scholars believe Abaddon to be Satan or the antichrist. Others argue that is a mistaken view since the angel "Abaddon" possesses the keys to the Abyss into which Satan is hurled or imprisoned, indicating that he serves as Satan's "jailer" and must therefore be someone else.
2. Our newest arrival on the island, George Minkowski, connects to the idea of time travel or lost time:
George Minkowski is the name of the man on the other end of the satellite phone when Jack calls at the end of "Through the Looking Glass". He is also heard in "The Beginning of the End".
"Minkowski" is the name of a German mathematician. The space which is named after him is a hyper-dimensional manifold in which Einstein's equations for special relativity are perfectly solvable.
It wants us to go back...
Watched the episode again and found some interesting things. First, Hurley was part of the Locke camp after the division, we know that Kate and Jack made it off, so this means there was either a reintegration of the two camps or something else went down...
I also found this last conversation between Jack and Hurley very interesting, where (as Sam and Walead informed me) they were playing HORSE in the mental institution gym...
Hurley "you're checking to see if I was gonna tell... if I was nuts"
Jack doesn't answer
Hurley "sorry... I'm sorry I went with Locke. I should have stayed with you"
Jack "It's water under the bridge man"
Hurley "I don't think we did the right thing Jack. I think it wants us to come back..."
Jack "Hurley..."
Hurley "... and it's gonna do anything it can to--"
Jack "we're never going back"
Hurley "Never say never, dude."
The it is what interests me... quite possibly it could be the island itself.
Why is it so important to keep a secret regarding other suvivors, appart from the Six? This would back up the claims that the Boaties (thanks wawa) either own or are co-owned by maybe Mitelos who wants to keep the island a secret, perpetuating the lie of the 815 wreckage reported.
Little tid-bit I noticed in the mental institution: There is a drawing on a green chalkboard of a tropical island with a palm tree, shark, water, and a little boat while the convo occurs.
The "Haitian"
So I also went back and reviewed episode 1 (isn't it awesome that episode 2 is only a day away?), and I have a question about this "lawyer" fellow. He tells Hurley he's a lawyer for Oceanic and he wants to know "are they still alive." Here's my question -- who DOES he work for?
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that he works for the Boaties because I think the assumption is that the Oceanic 6 made a deal with the Boaties to get off the island (i.e., "if you let us off the island, we will tell everyone that we were the only survivors and we'll just say we crashed in the ocean so people won't find out about the island"), so the Boaties should now be in charge of the island, and thus why would they send someone to find out if "they" are still alive? This only makes sense to me if the Boaties, once on the island, decide to stay on the island and abandon their backers, telling the Oceanic 6 to tell their backers (who have lost contact with the island again) that the Boaties all died. So the "they" could be the mutinous Boaties.
Or, he could be from the Others, in which case the "they" would presumably be the rest of the Others?
It actually makes most sense to me that he WOULD be Oceanic's lawyer and that he wants to know if the other Losties are still alive because presumably Oceanic paid hefty sums to the Losties' families under the assumption that the Losties were dead. If they're not actually dead, then Oceanic might be able to recoup some of their money.
I did read one theory that maybe he's a physical manifestation of the smoke monster, but this is both racist (why does the smoke monster have to be a dark brother?) and nonsensical (why wouldn't the smoke monster know if people on its island were still alive or not?).
Anyone have their own thoughts on who the guy was and who the "they" are?
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that he works for the Boaties because I think the assumption is that the Oceanic 6 made a deal with the Boaties to get off the island (i.e., "if you let us off the island, we will tell everyone that we were the only survivors and we'll just say we crashed in the ocean so people won't find out about the island"), so the Boaties should now be in charge of the island, and thus why would they send someone to find out if "they" are still alive? This only makes sense to me if the Boaties, once on the island, decide to stay on the island and abandon their backers, telling the Oceanic 6 to tell their backers (who have lost contact with the island again) that the Boaties all died. So the "they" could be the mutinous Boaties.
Or, he could be from the Others, in which case the "they" would presumably be the rest of the Others?
It actually makes most sense to me that he WOULD be Oceanic's lawyer and that he wants to know if the other Losties are still alive because presumably Oceanic paid hefty sums to the Losties' families under the assumption that the Losties were dead. If they're not actually dead, then Oceanic might be able to recoup some of their money.
I did read one theory that maybe he's a physical manifestation of the smoke monster, but this is both racist (why does the smoke monster have to be a dark brother?) and nonsensical (why wouldn't the smoke monster know if people on its island were still alive or not?).
Anyone have their own thoughts on who the guy was and who the "they" are?
2.04.2008
Daddy Issues
Hey peoples!!
Wheee!! LOST begins!
Anywho, to get us back in the swing of things, i thought i'd start off looking at "The Beginning of the End" through the lens of the theme of "Daddy Issues" which has so often popped up in LOST. Thoughts/observations/questions:
1. Hurley was driving the Camaro he had been fixing up with his Dad, last season. Evidently, he finally got it on the road.
2. Ben showed paternal sentiment for the first time ("I don't want my daughter--"); only to be smacked down (literally) by Rousseau ("She is not your daughter!"). Did she mean that literally, or, uh, not?
3. According to Lostpedia (and a review of the ep bears this out) the dude sitting in the chair in Jacob's cabin is Jack's dad. Wearing white sneakers. What's that about?
4. Jack's back to drinking, starting his day with a screwdriver... and if we remember our Freud, from "Moses and Monotheism," the development of culture - repeated in the development of each individual - is when the Son kills the Father, and then out of guilt and sadness takes on his characteristics and Becomes the Father. (apologies to Walead, who is probably writhing in agony at my over-simplified/possibly erroneous interpretation).
5. Aaron lost his father figure.
Anything else?
xo
Sam JM
Wheee!! LOST begins!
Anywho, to get us back in the swing of things, i thought i'd start off looking at "The Beginning of the End" through the lens of the theme of "Daddy Issues" which has so often popped up in LOST. Thoughts/observations/questions:
1. Hurley was driving the Camaro he had been fixing up with his Dad, last season. Evidently, he finally got it on the road.
2. Ben showed paternal sentiment for the first time ("I don't want my daughter--"); only to be smacked down (literally) by Rousseau ("She is not your daughter!"). Did she mean that literally, or, uh, not?
3. According to Lostpedia (and a review of the ep bears this out) the dude sitting in the chair in Jacob's cabin is Jack's dad. Wearing white sneakers. What's that about?
4. Jack's back to drinking, starting his day with a screwdriver... and if we remember our Freud, from "Moses and Monotheism," the development of culture - repeated in the development of each individual - is when the Son kills the Father, and then out of guilt and sadness takes on his characteristics and Becomes the Father. (apologies to Walead, who is probably writhing in agony at my over-simplified/possibly erroneous interpretation).
5. Aaron lost his father figure.
Anything else?
xo
Sam JM
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