2.06.2008

The "Haitian"

So I also went back and reviewed episode 1 (isn't it awesome that episode 2 is only a day away?), and I have a question about this "lawyer" fellow. He tells Hurley he's a lawyer for Oceanic and he wants to know "are they still alive." Here's my question -- who DOES he work for?

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that he works for the Boaties because I think the assumption is that the Oceanic 6 made a deal with the Boaties to get off the island (i.e., "if you let us off the island, we will tell everyone that we were the only survivors and we'll just say we crashed in the ocean so people won't find out about the island"), so the Boaties should now be in charge of the island, and thus why would they send someone to find out if "they" are still alive? This only makes sense to me if the Boaties, once on the island, decide to stay on the island and abandon their backers, telling the Oceanic 6 to tell their backers (who have lost contact with the island again) that the Boaties all died. So the "they" could be the mutinous Boaties.

Or, he could be from the Others, in which case the "they" would presumably be the rest of the Others?

It actually makes most sense to me that he WOULD be Oceanic's lawyer and that he wants to know if the other Losties are still alive because presumably Oceanic paid hefty sums to the Losties' families under the assumption that the Losties were dead. If they're not actually dead, then Oceanic might be able to recoup some of their money.

I did read one theory that maybe he's a physical manifestation of the smoke monster, but this is both racist (why does the smoke monster have to be a dark brother?) and nonsensical (why wouldn't the smoke monster know if people on its island were still alive or not?).

Anyone have their own thoughts on who the guy was and who the "they" are?

5 comments:

Trinidad Pena said...

"I did read one theory that maybe he's a physical manifestation of the smoke monster, but this is both racist (why does the smoke monster have to be a dark brother?) and nonsensical (why wouldn't the smoke monster know if people on its island were still alive or not?)."

I dunno why this made laugh but I almost cried!

They guy might be part of Naomi's crew. We still don't know what their agenda is.

Walead said...

Well, because I'm pretty sure who the other Oceanic 6 are, I won't comment on your Claire/Aaron theory, although it occurs to me now for the first time that if I'm right about the 6, then Kate's "he" will be quite interesting... (don't worry, it's not Aaron).

This does give me another thought, however. I think we can agree that people probably do make it off the island who aren't one of the Oceanic 6 (I still think Michael and Walt make it off, and I still think Michael was in that casket. If Tommie thought the casket looked small, was he thinking it was Walt? Jack said the person was neither "friend or family," and unless something happens between them, I would think it would be harsh for Jack to say Walt isn't his friend). So maybe the Haitian IS from the Boaties, but maybe when he asks whether "they" are still alive, he's actually asking whether there are other Losties alive NOT on the island. In other words, maybe some Losties are able to escape off the island and don't make the Oceanic-6 deal that Jack and the rest of them make, so the Boaties are trying to track them down because they could squeal about the island. Perhaps if Michael was the one in the casket, then that might suggest that the Boaties WERE able to track Michael down and kill him. It would explain why he changed his name. Hmmm... So maybe the "they" are Losties who are presumed dead but who may have actually sneaked off the island...

Trinidad Pena said...

It could also be Aaron in the casket. Hmm...

We still haven't discussed the fact that wreckage from the plane was found, unless Naomi was lying about that. If she is telling the truth then there is a cover up. Whoever is behind this cover-up is probably who the Haitian (how do we know that's where he is from, Heroes anyone?) is working for. Whoever wanted the world to think that everyone from oceanic flight 815 was dead wants to make sure no more peeps come out the woodwork.

Walead said...

You're really big on this Aaron kid, aren't you? I don't think it's Aaron because the flash-forward took place in 2004 and the news clipping said the deceased was found hung in an apparent suicide. Aaron would have been three years old, so I'm thinking he would not have been able to hang himself.

I think you're right about the cover up. I think the Boaties are well-funded and they probably even own Oceanic. They don't want people to find out about the island, so I think they orchestrated the wreckage so that they'd have a way of explaining the plane's disappearance and so officials wouldn't be snooping in that area and accidentally come across the island. They probably sold the Oceanic-6 idea to the public by saying that the plane crashed in the ocean, but that Jack didn't immediately die, and he was able to get 5 other people off the plane before it sank into the ocean. Perhaps they were also able to find a life raft or something. In any case, they floated for a few months until they were rescued. Now they're famous, Jack is a hero, there were no other survivors, and there was definitely no island.

We don't know why the Boaties would allow anyone to escape the island, though...

Oh, and I'm just calling the guy the "Haitian" because Saffie thought he looked like the Haitian from Heroes (Saffie, of course, thinks all black people look alike).

Trinidad Pena said...

My question is if the Haitian is part of the boaties/oceanic, wouldn't he know if "they" (if they are the other people on the island) are still alive? The boaties and "they" were on the island together. So the boaties either rescued some people and purposely left people behind, had cause to think that everyone but these 6 were dead or they had to leave unexpectedly and took the people they had on hand. Under these circumstances the oceanic 6 wouldn't know anymore about the fate of "they" than the boaties. This leads me to believe that the Haitian is not one of the boaties. And that possibly the boaties and the cover-up people are not one and the same.

I do think that the Haitian is part of the cover up. I think the boaties were looking for the island for some other reason, and know of Desmond for yet another reason. It's possible that they stumbled upon the survivors by accident. Maybe they are competitors of Mitelos bio-science or have some reason to want to stop the research that the others are doing.

It's also possible that the cover-up was orchestrated by the others since supposedly only they know that oceanic 815 crashed on the island. So maybe the Haitian is part of the others (the part that is out in the real world) and they have lost communications with the island. Maybe he is trying to find his way back to the island to met up with Ben and crew.