What'd you guys think? I don't know how I feel about these Desmond-time-traveling episodes. What're we supposed to make of them? Following the theory from Slaughterhouse-Five, it looks like the show is suggesting that time exists on a contiuum and everything has already happened and it's just a matter of where you are on the timeline. And some people -- like Desmond -- are "unstuck in time," so they can jump around from different time periods in their own lives. It's interesting to think about this idea of time as it relates to memories and consciousness. Even the structure of the show with its flash-backs and flash-forwards seem to endorse this idea of jumping around in time. Flash-backs make sense to us because we assume they're events in one of the character's memories, but how do we understanding flash-forwards? We don't think of them as being "memories" because they haven't happened yet. But if we view them under the Slaughterhouse-Five theory, then we would argue that everything has already happened, most people just aren't conscious of the future. So the show isn't cheating by showing flash-forwards because the camera is unstuck in time, so to speak.
Another big question is whether time is different on and off the island. Is it just perceived to be different, or is it actually different? On the boat, it was Dec. 24, but on the island it was Dec. 27. But maybe it's not that time moves at different paces on and off the island (Penny says that Desmond has been gone for three years, which is about how long he's been on the island), but rather that the worm hole or whatever it is going to and off the island shifts time for those people traveling through it. It looks like the worm hole slows down time for a while for people going through it. And the quicker you go through it the less the time lapse is. So that the missle -- traveling quickly -- was only slowed by 30 minutes, but the helicopter, traveling slower, was slowed by a day or two. Hell, if Michael and Walt are traveling on their boat through this worm hole, they might still be waiting to pop out!
Thoughts?
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3 comments:
Do we think Desmond is cured? That's the impression I got when he finally spoke with Penny... he knew he had been on island... like his Constant got him straightened out.
I thought it was a very touching episode. Them finally speaking on the phone at the end was beautiful... VERY Odysseus... except via telephone
Very true. I don't mind admitting that I found myself tearing up just a bit at the end. It was really moving.
I think we are supposed to think that Desmond is "cured." I got the sense that while talking to Penny, even in the past -- when he's walking away from Penny's -- that he was conscious of the fact that in the future he would get to talk to her. I think what the "constant" does is re-orients your brain so that you understand the context of your jumping around. So that rather than just feeling like reality is constantly and randomly shifting around you, you can start putting some pins in the timeline and connect the dots. It seems to suggest that our brains demand some linearality, and without it, we cease to function.
OMG! I Balled like a baby!
I love Desmond and Penny.
I've been thinking for a while that the Dharma has been involved in time travel. I think that is what was happening with the bear in Tunisia.
I think the time thing is very relative. I have the feeling that if Daniel where to do that experiment again, it wouldn't be 30 minutes. I could be an hour or 20 minutes. In the same way that when people have "side effects" it can take them days in the past or years. Do you think that Daniel's memory problems stem from time traveling?
Yo! but what's up with Charles Widmore and the black rock????
His grubby little hands are all over the island. Did you guys notice that Hanso was selling the journal?
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